An interview with the man I called the day I wanted to kill myself

An uncensored conversation with one of my best friends about the morning I decided to end my life in November 2019. Instead of suicide, I chose to call Casey McKown and Seth Johnson. Today, you get to hear Casey's side of that morning.

This episode is explicit because of the nature of our conversation and a couple of words.


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